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Why Mediumship Is Changing: From Proving Spirit to Feeling Their Presence

Nicole Pope Season 1 Episode 186

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A departed loved one can give you the right age, the right ailment, the right family details and still leave you feeling oddly empty. That tension is the heart of what we’re unpacking as mediumship evolves from “proof” to presence, from a checklist of evidence to an experience that lands in the body and helps ease grief. I’m sharing what I’m seeing shift in the mediumship marketplace, both from the spirit side and from the student and teacher side, and why the next era of spirit communication is about emotional truth as much as accuracy. 

I tell a story from a recent live mediumship demonstration where my guides gave me one clear instruction: let spirit lead. The night moved faster than I thought possible, and then an unforgettable grandmother stepped in and basically refused to follow a script. She insisted on doing the reading her way through story, warmth and energy, then backed it up with just enough evidential mediumship to lock it in. The final “feels like home” detail hit so hard because it was literal and it reminded me what great readings actually do: they reconnect people to the living feeling of love. 

From there, I get real about what clients are asking for now, why “facts” aren’t the main differentiator anymore, and why so many mediumship students are hunting for deeper energetic skill, clearer channels and a more embodied approach to spiritual development. I also call out the darker side of the industry: teachers who profit from keeping you a perpetual student, stuck in self-doubt and rigid structures. 

If you’re a psychic medium, a developing medium, or someone who books readings for grief healing, come listen and then tell me what you think. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find the show.

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Nicole is an evidential medium and former corporate executive who blends data, systems, and spirit communication after her son began seeing the dead. She’s obsessed with exposing the hidden patterns and frequencies keeping you stuck, and recoding them so you can finally live the life your soul designed for you. She offers private readings, mentorship, and classes in mediumship, spiritual growth, and soul-aligned business. 

Click here to learn more & connect with Nicole: http://links.mediumnicole.com


Welcome And The Mediumship Shift

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Hello, everyone. Welcome back. It is the Unity Code podcast, and I am going to talk about mediumship today. I'm going to talk about what I see as shifting in the mediumship marketplace, both from a dead people perspective and also from a student and teacher perspective as well. So I think I'm going to go in that order as well because it's going to just be this mind-blowing example of how the space of mediumship is really shifting, at least in my experience. And then those of you that are very interested in mediumship, let's talk about this. Let's talk. Like bring me, bring me the stuff. Bring me your perspectives as well, because I only know what I know and I know there's a lot on the marketplace, and you see it on the marketplace because I don't know what happened, but everybody's a medium now, which I think is fucking awesome. I think everyone is a medium now. Um, and I love that so many people are waking up to the fact that they're mediums. It's fucking incredible. But also with the new wave of people who want to learn mediumship and want to learn how to connect with spirit, there's like it's like new level, new, new devil. And I think there's a lot of things that are shifting and changing in the marketplace with mediumship. So I'm just gonna give a quick little story from my perspective. I just feel called to start with this story, and it's not entirely relevant to where I'm going, but I think it is at the same time. So I started. Let me I hosted, not started, I did start it too. I hosted a mediumship demonstration a couple weeks ago locally, and I didn't get the normal pre-demonstration jitters or the pre-demonstration dead people that I normally get. They generally left me alone, which is pretty atypical. Usually my electronics will get all fucked up, my lights will go crazy, I won't sleep, I'll have dead people all around me all day. And it's like chaotic in my energy. And so I personally asked them to back off. I told them, you all know who's coming through in what order, because they do. So can you all just back off and let me enjoy the time before the session so I'm not energetically depleted by the time I get there? So fair enough, they they allowed me to do that, which was very lovely. And because I had asked everybody to back off, it felt very eerie to me to not be completely bothered before

A Demonstration With No Jitters

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mediumship demonstration. And so I started to get a little nervous, if I'm honest with you, and I asked my team, my spirit guide team, and I was like, what do you want me to do about this? Is it gonna go okay? Like I feel like it's gonna go okay, but can you give me any guidance on what to expect so that I feel a little safer in my nervous system before I go in there? And it was so interesting because the three things I heard, the three words they told me was let spirit lead. Let spirit lead. And I'm like, okay. Like, okay. And so the theme of the night ended up being letting spirit show me what was possible. And holy shit, did they show me what was possible? So it was lovely because as I started into the demonstration, about half the room were total newbies to the mediumship space. Half of them had been to demonstrations before. And I talked about this, how I'm just seeing a lot more newer people in the space. So I gave the spiel, I gave the the whole um, this is what this is how it comes in, this is what to expect. This is, you know, let me know if it sounds like your departed loved one, right? And what was so cool is in the middle of this relaying the introduction, I said, normally I like to get enough evidence to place the spirit and then bring it straight into the message and read as many of you as possible. But out of out of my mouth tumbled the words. But that's gonna depend on who you are. Because if some of you need more evidence, I'm gonna bring more evidence. If some of you need more messages, I'm gonna bring more messages. And so the reading is gonna be tailored to you and what you need. And I'm just gonna go with whatever spirit tells me. So spirit was already setting me up to be outside my comfort zone in terms of the readings, and like we're setting the audience up and also me up at the same time to essentially expect the unexpected. And and I did anyway because I walked in and Spirit was like, You're gonna read nine people.

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And I'm like, nine people? Nine in an hour and a half, nine.

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That's a 10-minute, no, less than that, because I have to do the intro, which is about 10 minutes. So it's like nine minutes per person to do a reading evidence message, which is incredibly fucking fast. And like if you train in this space, you generally know you want your demonstration readings to be like seven, seven to eight, seven, eight, nine minutes long. So I was actually like right where quote unquote the best in practice, whatever the fuck that means, uh reading duration is. But typically they're not that fast. If you actually do this work, you know they're typically not fast. They're, you know, it might be like 10 to 15 minutes each. So, you know, generally I get through six, maybe seven on a demonstration night, but I got through nine people. Nine. It was fucking crazy. They predicted it. I did it. And like it was so can I just sidebar for about a minute or so? It was really interesting because I must have done six by about 15 minutes, you know, in the first hour, hour and 15 minutes. I had 15 minutes left, and I was just like, you're not gonna fucking, I'm not getting to nine. And oh my god, did spirit fucking prove me wrong? Because the last reading, three people came in. It was for three people who would come in together. And I was like, oh, there's the rest of the line. Fuck, they were right. Spirit's always right, everybody. So a little sip of my water there. So as we as I talk about spirit setting me up for something different, like it really was a very beautiful and very different night. And I'm gonna talk about this in other podcast episodes, but I had a very, um, a very tough reading that I had to deliver for somebody whose uncle had had died by suicide. I'm gonna bring that, like I'm gonna talk about that one in a future one. It was a really, really lovely and difficult message to deliver in a group, in a group setting, because it was a very personal and deep message.

Spirit Pushes The Pace To Nine

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Um I I talked about the three that I read at the end, right? That was very, very different. I I essentially pulled one through and then the other two, that was very interesting. Um, but the one I want to go into for this session today is this beautiful, amazing grandmother, technically grandmother-in-law, that came through in the demonstration. And it was really interesting because I was, she was about halfway through the session, the readings. I'm going, I'm cooking, like I'm just I'm flying through these readings. And then all of a sudden, this I look over in my mind's eye, by the way, to my right, and I see this grandmother walking towards me. She is old, she is kind of hunched over with a cane. Um, or she's got her hand on one thing. I still can't figure out if it was a cane or a, you know, one of those things that they shuffle on, but she only had one hand. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna say it was a cane. And she's shuffling in to my right, walking towards me very slowly. And so I'm saying, okay, I'm seeing this, you know, elderly woman, this grandmother coming forward. She is hunched over, she has a cane, she's shuffling very slowly, you know, she's at very elderly in age. I think, I think I said she's 80, 89, um, 98, one of those two. I can't remember. And so I see her in my mind's eye, and then she's gone. And I was like, well, I still feel her. I know she's still here. And so I'm just standing there waiting. And all of a sudden, I just get this sudden urge to sit.

The Grandmother Who Refused A Script

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She's like, sit down. Almost like, okay, okay, I can sit. So I go and sit in the chair, and I'm literally just waiting for this old woman to start because I know she's there. I've already called her out. There's nobody else there, but yet all around me is blank energy. I don't know what's coming in. And so I'm sitting and I'm sitting and like no fucking word of lie. Probably about a minute or two goes by, or at least it feels like two minutes has gone by. And I'm like, I'm just waiting for her, everybody. I'm literally just waiting for her to tell me what she wants me to know. And so I'm like psychically trying to reach. And I was like, nope, not supposed to reach. I'm not pulling it psychically. And so eventually I just hear, and everything's blank in my mind. Like I'm not seeing anything, I'm not feeling anything. But all of a sudden, I hear in my mind like it's like a woman around the corner yelling at me, saying, I want to do this my way. And I said, Oh, okay. As long as you fucking come and do this, I don't fucking give a shit how you want to do this. We'll do this your way. That doesn't bother me. So I tell the audience, I'm like, so she wants to do this her way. And so this is gonna look maybe a little different than have you seen before, but I'm just gonna let her go. And so, with that verbal agreement, that verbal verbal yes, I will do this her way. She started it on this beautiful story about how she would be the safe space for you, about how she would be the person that you could bring your problems to. And she was a whole vibe. Like she was a whole vibe. Like you would just show up, and her energy and her love would just envelop you, and it would make you feel safe and it would make you feel loved. And just being in her presence was essentially to have your energy fixed. And so as you bring your problems to her, she doesn't actually solve your problems, she just reflects the problem right back at you so that you walk away with the empowerment, knowing that you solved the problem. She did not want to solve the problems for you because she knew that you had the answer. And so she would always turn the problem back on you, always have the questions that allowed you to self-reflect and find your way through the issues you were currently going through. And when you left her space, you felt again loved, empowered, complete, whole. She would give you the feeling of you being invincible just by being in her presence.

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And the last thing she said is that I'm just like, she feels like home.

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I don't know how to describe it. She feels like home, this woman. And she might have given a couple of other pieces of evidence, like three kids married. Um, I can't grandkids. I can't remember the other, but it was like very I was like, great, we did it your way. Give me a couple of pieces of evidence because this sounds so broad. And so she did. She humored me a little bit. And then when I looked up and said, like, who can take this beautiful grandmother figure? This woman in the front row was crying, sobbing. And she said that once for me. And it was such a beautiful reading because as this woman in the front row was explaining, this is exactly who this woman was. Like it was down to a T, the fact that she wanted to do it her way. She's like, everything was her way. And she went through and said, You're absolutely right. You would go to her with your problems. She would, she would help you. She would, she would point out that you had the answer. And she just gave you the strength to find your way through the problem yourself. She did validate the other pieces of evidence that I bought through, that I brought through. And then at the end, I was like, but what was with the feels like home? And she said, We bought her house. We live in that house now. We live in her home. Like mind blowing, right? So, so as this beautiful woman in the front row is relaying this information, I'm starting to cry and I'm laughing at the same time. And in my head, this grandmother on the other side is fucking touting herself, being like, Did you oh did you see what I did there? I'm so good. She is so proud of herself. You can't make this shit up when you work with spirit. Like it's unbelievable how hilarious they are. And so, like, it was so funny because then I had to be like, now she's telling me how she thinks how amazing she is because she was able to bring this through in such a perfect way. And she just started laughing and said, Yeah, that's definitely her. So this was part of the magic that happened when I don't even want to say I let spirit lead because it like I guess I did technically, but like spirit asked me to let them lead, and I went along with it. Is it was a totally different reading, right? It was a story, it was surrendering to whatever the spirit wanted to say, and it was the perfect evidence that didn't just evoke the validation of who this beautiful woman was, but it gave the feeling of who this grandmother was. Like in the room, people were crying. Like it wasn't just the woman in the front row, it was everybody because everyone could feel the love and beauty that this departed grandmother had that she gave the people she loved.

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It wasn't it wasn't a reading, it was an experience.

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And I think this is really a beautiful segue into the changes that I am seeing working with spirit, working with mediumship in this space. Because I think people are waking up to the fact that there's a different and better way to read departed loved ones, and that departed loved ones do not just want to be a checklist, they want to be felt, they want to show their love, they want to relay information at a whole fucking new, elevated level that makes it not just a reading, but an experience, a memory, right? An immersion into who they are. And can I just be honest with you about what it feels like to deliver? I so we just talked about what that was like to receive, to deliver the messages of a again, very divine masculine

Checklist Evidence Versus Lived Experience

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style reading of the checklist. Of you know, I have a grandma, she's she's 89, she's uh older, she's you know, physically keeled over, she has a cane, she you you live in her house, you um, she helps, she helps you solve your problems. You always go to her with everything, you have her house, right? Like that is a whole different fucking reading than the one I just gave you, than the one you just sat through. Because what it does, it it is it gives you like that divine masculine checklist way of just relaying evidence after evidence after evidence. It doesn't resonate with the energy of the spirit, of the soul that we were bringing through. It doesn't create that emotional connection that people need when they're going to a mediumship reading because they need that connection. They need to be reminded their loved ones are still with them. Um, having the checklist is not enough nowadays, it's not good enough. Is it profound and fucking impressive? Absolutely yes. Isn't an experience? No. And I'm willing to fight you on it if you disagree. I don't bother me. Doesn't bother me because the person who is giving the reading, it is a whole different feeling when you have a checklist versus when you have a story and the energy kind of embedded in it as the medium. And so I again I think this is where a lot of mediumship is going. And I'm as I'm pausing, as everyone who works with me knows, like seven things are coming in at once, which is why I have the awkward pauses. I'm like, which one of the strands do I go after first? And so I think that people who are booking these readings, clients of mediumship. And I'm seeing this trend with my own clients as well, is they're looking for the feeling. They're looking for the grief to be resolved through knowing without a doubt that their loved ones are still with them, by feeling the energy of them, by learning how to recognize the signs that their loved ones are with them. Right. They are looking for that experience because logic, they know that mediumship is real. Logically, they know their loved ones are with them. Logically, they already see the signs. So we're not actually proving life after death anymore because most people walking into my space already believe it. Otherwise, they wouldn't be there. Like, can I be honest with you? I I'm okay with skeptics. That's not what I'm talking about. Because I think you can be skeptical and still believe, but still want the evidence. That's fine. That's absolutely fine. But people are already generally bought into the fact that life persists after death.

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So now we want them to feel that their loved ones persist after death. That's the difference.

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And so I'm seeing more and more clients that already know the signs, already know their loved ones are with them, already hear the messages on the radio, already see the cardinals, already see the butterflies, right? They already know their loved ones are with them. But they're looking to recapture that same feeling they had when they were alive. And so this is, I think, reflective of that's how it all connects. Thank you, Spirit. Spirit's always got my back. I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna connect all these strands. Here it is. And so what I'm seeing are mediumship students, dare I say, flocking to me, that are looking to understand that next level of energetics in this work. And I'm talking about students from very big name teachers that are looking to understand and come at mediumship from a very different perspective. And like I I think this is this shakeup is wonderful, whether you're coming to me or you're going to a different teacher. Like, kudos, amazing. Choose the path that works for you. But I am just seeing this need to go deeper in the work, this need to go bring the energy, bring the feeling, bring the connection to a whole different level. This need to, again, as we've talked about in the larger state society, shift and transform and bring down the existing structures and learn that there's a different and better way to do this work. And so I am seeing students recognizing that they've probably learned what they needed to learn from some of these top-tier teachers, which by the way, I learned from too. So there's no judgment

Students Chasing Deeper Energetic Skill

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in that. But also, how can I bring this down a level? How can I bring in the energy, the feeling, the emotion into this work? How do I make this an amazing fucking experience for my clients? How do I connect deeper as a medium? How do I make how do I make my channel so much clearer so that I make this an experience for my clients? Because as more and more people come into this field, let's be honest with you, there's mediums literally everywhere right now. The differentiator is no longer going to be the facts, it's gonna be the feeling. It's gonna be the experience. It's how you're going to stand out against the crowd. Not because this is about marketing or trying to sucker people in, that's not what I mean. It's really because that's how mediumship should have always been done. It should have always been an experience. It should have always been a deep fucking connection. But I also think that the energy in the collective is ripe for this now. Even though it was always meant to be at this level, I feel like people are starting to finally fucking understand it at this level, finally able to access spirit and an energetic clear sentience level that you can amplify for your clients, which is what I do. And so I guess for those of you that are students, aren't we always eternal students of this work of mediumship? And you feel called to check out a different teacher, do it. There is a reason you're feeling called. There is a reason why someone else is popping up in your energetic field and you're knowing spirit is sending you the right teachers for you in your next evolution. They always have with me, always have with me. I always knew who my next teacher was going to be because Spirit sent them to me or showed me something or led me their way. And so follow that because there is a next evolution for every single one of you out there. There's a next evolution for me out there. And so I am, you know, I'm taking classes all the time. I work with my team all the time on new ways to read mediumship, new ways to expand this field, new ways to do it differently, more effectively, more feelingly that is going to, you know, revolutionize this field of mediumship as we fucking know it. And so the question is, are you listening to that calling? Are you listening into the expansion of your energetic field? Are you looking for the ways where you can deepen your work or do it differently than you have before? Not because your clients are asking for it, but because spirit is showing you the way. Just like they showed me the way. Let spirit lead and see the fucking magic that happens when they lead you down the path that you didn't know even know existed. There is so much about mediumship that is about to be uncovered, that is about to be explored and seen from a whole different perspective. And I know that because I can feel it. I can fucking feel it. And my team keeps showing me mediumship is like child's play compared to what is coming down the pipeline in the future. Don't get caught in the existing structures of how other people are telling you to do this work. Because those people, those teachers, like to keep things in boxes, like to make it easy and predictable, like to teach you the same thing over and over and over again, but in different contexts, which is not expanding the field of knowledge for you. It's not expanding the way that you look at the work, it's just expanding the depth in which you are looking at it within their own existing structure. Like, can I even? Oh, son pisses me off so much. Pisses me off so much. Um, go, they're telling me. Because a lot of these teachers are making money by making you a perpetual student. A lot of teachers are making a lot of money thinking that you are not good enough, making you think that you're not good enough to take on clients for this work. Now, I think it's a beautiful precipice. I use that word again, or balance from being ethical and making sure that you are a quality reader. Absolutely, yes. Yep, I get it. But also, there's a lot of teachers out there who are going to point out your flaws and not your strengths. Point out your deficiencies and not your accomplishments. Point out how you have more work to do because a lot of them are emotionally and financially invested in you staying a student.

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And you don't need

The Trap Of Perpetual Studenthood

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to be, right?

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And so this is this is why I look at the work the way that I do, is because I am so sick of the students that are eternal. I'm so sick of the teachers that create the eternal students, and I'm so sick of the lack of innovation and empowerment that exists at a spiritual practitioner level, at a spiritual teacher level. These are the spiritual egos that I try to warn literally everybody about. And are they valuable? Yes, absolutely. I think they all have their place, but I also need you to recognize when you've grown past it. I need you to recognize when it's just not worth your time anymore or money anymore. You're not actually growing and not actually expanding it because that's when you're like, go your book is overdue, go return it to the library, go find a new book. Okay, go find a new teacher, go find a new methodology, go find a new way for you to come at this work. Because if you're not continuing to grow and expand and challenge yourself, you're not doing spirit the justice that they deserve in continuing to deepen and expand your spiritual connection, your impact in this physical world.

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Okay.

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And I guess the last thing that I want to give you is try it different. If you are a mediumship practitioner, why don't you just open up to spirit and say, show me, teach me, lead this reading the way that you want this leading to be read. What like what do it? What are you waiting for? That's how I practice, right? Let spirit lead. Because they know where this work is going. They know who you're becoming, they know what you need to work on, what you need to expand on. And this is why I structure my practice circles the way that I do. Just show up. Just show up. Let spirit show you what you need to work on. Let spirit help you grow and expand because that's their job. They can see the much bigger picture. They can see the unity consciousness and how all of these mediumship students and teachers are all moving towards an evolution that we are yet to see or realize here in the physical world. But if we keep living in the old ways,

A Simple Practice To Grow Fast

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following the old teachers, following the same structures, the same systems that created you, you will not grow into the future version of you. You will stay stagnant and probably just like me, because I've been here, stay stuck in this vibration and not want to say, stay in this space. And I think this is a wonderful last reflection for this episode is because I have heard and seen so many people that enter this work and leave this work just as quickly. That enter the mediumship space, become practitioners, maybe open a business and then fucking exit like they like an Irish exit. They're just gone, they just disappear. And I think sometimes it's not for them. But I think a lot of times they're not allowing themselves to grow and expand in the way that would keep this work absolutely fucking magical for them. So if this work is not feeling magical for you right now, it's an invitation to go deeper and to expand your horizons in this incredible life fucking changing work. So, how are you gonna expand today? And if you feel called to talk about energy, to expand your horizons, obviously I'm here as a teacher if you need me, but uh, you know, I want to make sure you feel called to me. I say this stuff, and I'm like, if you I don't even know if I need to say this. Like, if you, if you, if this resonated with you, send me a line. Let me know how it felt, and if there's a way I can support you in your expansion, I am always here. Always here to fucking support you. Always innovating with spirit, always doing things the way that we are meant to grow into. All right. I hope you have a lovely day. Take care.