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What You Need To Know About Angel Numbers with Carly Arbuckle

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The numbers keep finding you for a reason. We open up a grounded, heart-forward guide to angel numbers—why they show up so often, how to interpret them without spiraling into fear, and the simple moment-to-moment practice that helps you actually feel supported. Our guest, angel medium and human design guide Carly Arbuckle, shares her awakening story, the difference between faith and trust, and a body-based exercise to sense angelic love by “opening” your cells to receive. The core filter we return to again and again: if a thought makes you feel you’re not enough, it’s not from the angels.

From 1111 to the oddball combos that stop you in your tracks, we break down how meaning arrives through your own symbol language—memories, numerology, songs, and the tools you already use. Carly maps how angels speak through human design, offering validation that feels specific and actionable without taking away your free will. We dig into the frequency vs confirmation bias debate, show how signs repeat until you notice, and explain why asking for proof from panic drains the signal while asking from faith strengthens it. When you try to make numbers choose for you, you give up your power; when you let them support your choice, momentum returns.

We also reframe slow seasons, creative lulls, and career pivots. Angel numbers often cluster at those thresholds to say you’re safe, keep going, something good is forming. You’ll hear practical ways to build your own lexicon, what to do when a lookup triggers fear, and how to invite a clearer message without chasing certainty. By the end, you’ll have a calm method for interpreting signs, a deeper trust in your first intuitive hit, and a clearer sense of how angels affirm your path—often, gently, and always with love.

If this conversation gives you a nudge, follow it: subscribe, share with someone who keeps seeing 222, and leave a review with the number that finds you most. Your story might be the sign someone else needs.

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SPEAKER_01:

Hello everyone. Welcome back to the Unity Code. I am so freaking excited that the lovely, gorgeous, amazing Carly Arbuckle is here with me today to talk all about angel numbers. Thanks so much for being here, Carly. I am so stoked to be here. I'm so stoked. Thanks for having me. This honest to God feels like Christmas morning for me right now. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about all the angel things. It is so funny because we are starting recording this episode. I'm on the East Coast at 10 08 a.m., which is an angel number of mine. Really? Of course it is. We are starting nice and early with this episode. And for those of you that don't know, Carly is like my my soul sister. We met a couple years ago now, uh, in a business coaching class together where where the medium and the angel medium slash human design expert showed up, and it was just amazing when the two of us got together. The best.

SPEAKER_02:

And I was afraid it wouldn't, honestly. That's something that you and I talk about all the time. Is when you first came in, I was like, oh my God, there's another medium. I and all of a sudden I was like, oh my God, oh my God, what like what I'm not enough, I'm not enough, I'm not enough. And it's like the best thing that could have ever happened in that group was that you and I were both there. And there's ours who does human design, Jess, who is incredible and was another huge gift. I think getting to be together with other people who do the same, like there are there is room for all of us, and it has changed my life so much for the better to have both of you in it. I'm so grateful for it.

SPEAKER_01:

Completely, completely agree. And I think it's so, you're so right because all of us have very different perspectives, even though we have the same, I'm gonna say toolbox. And and we we started riffing a little bit about angel numbers before we started recording this episode when we were formulating the idea and talking about the idea of angel numbers. And your perspective is so different than mine. And that's why I'm so freaking excited. Besides talking to, you know, my lovely soul sister, I'm so excited to go through this episode and really talk about like where do we align? Where are we different? Because I think there's so many different aspects of angel numbers that that's portrayed out there. And I think the lovely part is there's no wrong answer.

SPEAKER_02:

I was gonna say, and and they're all right. I think that's the part that really blows everybody's mind, including mine, honestly. For years, that was that was where I got hung up is like, but wait, if this is right and this is right and these don't, then how, you know, because when you awaken, it's like, oh my God, everything is possible. And then it's like, oh my God, every like literally nothing is impossible. And it can be mind-blowing, you know. But I'm excited too. I'm excited to hear your perspective.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. So for my listeners that are less familiar with you, um, I just want to give you a quick little intro that's always awkward. So sit through it anyway, Carly. I'm so sorry. So, Carly Arbuckle, um, and I'll I'll add up all of her information in the show notes. She blends loving guidance from your angels with practical insight from your human design to deliver unshakable clarity and validation about who you are, why you're here, and the unique gifts you bring to the world. Because your world always needs a little extra, and life gets a whole lot more fun and enchanting when you step into the power of just being who you are. Can you see why I love her, everybody? She's just such an amazing soul.

SPEAKER_02:

Such an amazing soul. The world needs your extra, everybody.

SPEAKER_01:

It's not extra, it's your gifts. Oh, completely true. All right, are we ready to get down into angel numbers? And I'm definitely gonna have Carly here um for probably other things too, but we're we're gonna stick with angel numbers today because there's so much Carly is so good about.

SPEAKER_02:

Um and I'm wanting when I when people come and see me, it's one of the number one things because I started as an angel medium. I started as an um in an angel Ricky school. Um, and that was where all of my foundation is. And so usually people will come to me and be like, I'm seeing all these angel numbers. So I'm stoked.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's such a and that's such a good segue. So do you want to talk a little bit about like how or why you know so much about angels and angel numbers and all these amazing things that you do know?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, um, I have a whole awakening journey. And, you know, that stemmed from actually now I know it's interesting to now have all of these different perspectives. As a projector, you know, we have all of these areas of expertise, and I was just sort of collecting them. And it's interesting to see through all these different perspectives how they are the same. Um, but I started around my Saturn return, um, which I didn't know at the time, but I just had a whole bunch of stuff happening and then started, you know, spiraling into this spiritual awareness. 2020 was huge, and I think it was for a lot of us, um, which gave us the opportunity to expand. And I really resonated with angels. And so I started listening to an angel podcast, um, Julie Jansis, who's my friend and mentor, and I did the scariest thing in my life, honestly, and came out of the spiritual closet. The angels say there's a difference between faith and trust, and faith is the belief and trust is the action, right? So I remember signing up for this Angel Reiki school. I have an angel number story before that. Um, you can come back to. This is the the story about my cousin that I told you about. Um, and but I I signed up for this program, and it was scarier than having children, getting married, like all of the things. Because I was like, oh my God, I'm about to spend over a thousand dollars. Like, like I'd never done anything. I mean, it was worth$20,000, right? But I'd never done anything that really invested in myself from a structured perspective, which I think is like that's when you talk to spirit, when we talk to spirit, like when you want to do this work, that's number one, get into a program, you know? And I had dreams that night of my angels partying. Like I still can picture it. It was sort of like that scene in Hercules, um, the cartoon at like when they're in Olympic at Mount Olympus. Um, but it was like all of these angels throwing a party. Um, and then I went into this Angel Reiki school. And the way that this one works is you um she basically lays out all of the different modalities, teaches you energy healing, and then allows you to channel what comes through for you. And then you develop your own gifts. And I'm a psychic medium, um, I'm an angel messenger, I work with angels every single day. Um, and that is really, like I said, the foundation from where I, you know, grew my entire spiritual practice. Um, they led me to, you know, eventually join the team of my mentor on a team of healers as an angel medium. Um, and then I ran into human design and spiraled into that. And this is where they've led me. But they are quite literally the people, the angels who lead me through all of my work. And um I'm so excited to talk about them because they are so high vibrational and so delightful. Um and yeah, I think that's that's where I started and I continue to work with them every day.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. I don't think I knew that story, Carly. So thank you for sharing that. And I have to reflect back to the audience as well, is when you talk to Carly, she just breaks out into, oh, well, our Archangel Michael is saying this right now, Archangel Gabrielle's saying this right now. Like you'll just be in the middle of a conversation with her. So you are the perfect person to talk to. And and obviously, let me see if I can get my my thoughts together. You are somebody who is so deeply and lovingly connected to the angels that you are the perfect person to be like, tell me what the angels say about the angel numbers.

SPEAKER_02:

I love them. They say they love you, and you're right. That's honestly like the bottom line: if you take nothing else away, you know, Archangel Jofiel said the word one of the first things when I was trying to to um channel, and I was like, okay, angels, help me out. How do I tell the difference between my thoughts? And, you know, I remember specifically, I was trying to find my keys. And people have different, you know, angels, and you know, Catholicism has saints that you go to, they're all the same thing. So I was like, I think it was Archangel Michael or something. I was like, please help me, because he helps me find my sleep mask at night. Um, I was like, please help me find my keys. And then I also am a splenic authority in human design, which means that I really don't know my intuition is my intuition until I'm doing it. So I was like hearing things in my head, like look under the car or look in the glove box, or you know, and I was really intellectualizing it. And I kept beating myself up because I wasn't following it. Like maybe I wasn't looking in the right place, or I wasn't looking, I wasn't really listening or really hearing my intuition. And then I asked the angels, I was like, okay, y'all, how do I know what's me and what's you? And Archangel Jofail said, if the thought makes you feel you're not enough, it's not of God. And I was like, Yes, Queen, like, thank you. Archangel Jofael is someone I work with. She's actually, I think she's one of the biggest members of my spirit team. She's um uh she's the archangel of beauty. So she helped me see, she helps me see the the world through the lens of love, um, through the perspective of seeing life is beautiful. Um, and I have a whole other, I mean, I have a whole compartment with her, but she is just incredible. And it made gave me so much relief. The angels bring so much relief from day to day. That is their purpose, is what they're saying.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I love that so much. I love it. It's hard to be human, it's hard. And I just felt my shoulders just completely drop when you said um the difference between your intuition and your ego. And I love I love the way that you described that so much. I really do.

SPEAKER_02:

It's hard. They sound so Shakespearean when they come through for for me, they sound so put together, but like it, and it's almost churchy. So you'd think like it sounds almost like scripture, but it it doesn't. It's if the thought makes you feel you're not enough, it's not of God. So anything that comes through that makes you feel like the example I give is like the angels wouldn't tell you stop eating sugar. Like wouldn't that happen because that makes you feel you're not enough. You are the underlying message from the angels is that you are more than enough. You are perfect exactly as you are every minute, every day. And you are gonna be on this journey, and they are here to help, not to judge you. It is, I'm I could cry. It is so profound, the love that we have available to us all the time. And I get that most through my angels, through the numbers, through everything. But that is what I feel like I like I'm saying to anybody who's new to angels, or if you're trying to change, like it can get kind of hairy. Everybody has to go through, you know, mistakes and you know, your own blocks in your mind. But if it makes you feel like you're not doing enough, or you need to change yourself in any way that you don't want to change, um, usually if you're changing, it would be like a nudge to do what you want to do. Right. That makes complete sense. It's never anything that you're like, uh angelic energy.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that so much. So for those of us that are those of the listeners that can't hear the angels, right? That's enter angel numbers, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, by the way, none of us really audibly hear them anyway. It's a weird thing to describe as a medium, like it's it's just it is what it is. But if you perceive them, I loved this. You said this in a recent podcast, and I was just like, yes, perceive how you perceive, not how you hear or how you see or how you feel, or how how you perceive is such a better way to say how you channel because it's not through the physical senses. The it's that's the closest thing, but it's like saying God is a father, it's just not the same, it's close, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

It is, it is, and the perceiving can look different to everybody, right? The perceiving can be feelings, it could be thoughts, it could be hearing songs, it could be all of these things, it could be angel numbers, right? Right, yes. So, Carly, what are angel numbers to you?

SPEAKER_02:

They are um signs of support and encouragement, and um they are tangible proof for my doubt and a tool to increase and and um expand my faith, especially when I feel my lowest. Um they are immediate um warmth and a reminder that I am so loved and that this is hard sometimes, but um just to feel even to ask yourself, and this is a good exercise we can do right now. Yeah, let's do it for listeners. Um, so the way I learned it, there are um cherubs, which we all see like these are Sistine Chapel kind of, you know, little fat angels is basically what they're perceived to be. To me, they come through as chipmunks. Um, but something interesting that um was channeled in this book or in Julie's book is that if you see all of your cells, you have billions of cells, right? And if they look like the end of this pen, so everybody picture like the end of a um, they're showing me a uh pen. Mechanical pencil, right? So that little dot, right? So these are all your cells, and you want to flip them this way so that they're horizontal. So you see them now, you see on front, like face forward, you see them as dots, but they're actually tubes. Okay. Follow me, follow me.

SPEAKER_00:

Spirit's following you.

SPEAKER_02:

The bell's going. Ding ding. Um so you can ask the cherubs, the cherubs will help like expand your awareness and open these this connection to the other side, open your cells to feeling the love of the angels, to like a sort of communication. Yes, that's that's not what it is, though. It's more energy, they're saying. So if you really take a second and take a deep breath in and out, and you picture billions of cells. So you can start with your heart, feeling how your heartbeat is connected to your body, and you picture how many cells make that up and just expand that awareness into your entire body, picturing the thousands and trillions and billions, like all of those just cells, right? And then you see them as these dots, and then you picture them sort of just opening, the ends of the tubes opening and asking yourself to feel and allow the love of the angels to flow through you. I picture it from behind me through my heart space. And it's to me, it feels like I'm Pocahontas in colors of the wind. And like I've got like just help me feel the love, help me feel your love and how loved I am. Help me feel how loved I am is the is the phrase that works for me. And all of a sudden, it just overwhelming. It's overwhelming. So to answer your question, that's what incomes are for me. They are a little bit of that, and they are everywhere, and the abundance of them is so appropriate for the abundance that they actually are. Wow. It's a love we have, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It's wild, excuse me, because the the exercise you just did, I just felt so much more expansive in my energy, but also trusting in my energy. It's it's this. Um, I don't know if any of the listeners or if you felt it, there's something really that exercise you just did that made me almost like come back to myself and love me for who I am in that energy.

SPEAKER_02:

Isn't it amazing? Like it makes me cry, it makes me weepy.

SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to my podcast. We're both crying now. Um because if you allow that, and then you recognize that you are just this little baby soul that is here doing really hard things, and it's okay, you're safe, there's never a moment that you're by yourself, and it really even getting a moment of that brings such relief, and I think this is why angel numbers are so important, and I think this is why, and I and I I'm laughing a little bit inside as well, Carly, because I think people question how many times there's no way my angels are sending me 1111 that many times. There's no like I have seen the number 333 on repeat at least 20 times a day in the past week, and people are they question it, right? And I and I know uh diving into you know a little bit of a science perspective, you know, it's the it's what is it called? It's like the recency thing, like the more that you pay attention to it or the more that you see it, the more that you're going to see it because that's just the way our brains work. But it but to me, the frequency at which I receive these numbers defies that possibility because statistically speaking, I'll tell you, I'm a numbers weirdo. I look at all the numbers all the time, everywhere, and the and then prevalency of certain numbers that pop up, like 1008 when we started, which by the way is my birthday, October 8th. Right. Like when I see that, I know that I'm on the right path. I know the angels love me. They remind me of it. They they have my back. And so every time we see these numbers, um, it should be very frequent because that's the amount of love they have for you and want to remind you continuously you're doing a good job and you're on you're on the right path and that we love you and support you.

SPEAKER_02:

LOL, the angels just said it's a frequency. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that that is that is something I wrote about is the frequency of it because I think that the when you're in frequency of it, I'd love to hear you or the angels coming through. When you are in frequency and alignment, you're going to attract the energy you put out, and like when you're higher vibe, aren't you gonna attract more angel energy coming in?

SPEAKER_02:

Right. It's literally the word frequent in another in in a it's an adjective and a noun. Like it's just an extension of like when you're tuned in, yes, it will be more frequent. Like, but they say that, and that's another huge question I get in my sessions is like um confirmation bias. Well, if I'm looking for this, if I'm looking, if I'm buying a VW bug, I'm gonna see all the VW bugs. And I think from a scientific perspective, yeah, absolutely. Um, but you're not gonna be looking at those VW bugs and thinking about if it's a sign from the universe of like support. You know, there's a there's a difference when you see angel numbers and you think of them, then the doubt comes later. You know what I mean? It's it's an intuitive knowing that we doubt, and that's a human thing to do, but they will send you so many numbers. And what they say about that is they're always there. It's just if you decide to notice them, it's a literal frequency. I love that. I love that everywhere. One to do is to ask them to show you um like double triples. Like I've done doubles, um, but I'm sure they would give you triples on my way home from dropping the kids off at school. Show me one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. When you ask this, it must be from a place of wanting to expand your faith and not to out of fear. So that's something that we can talk about too, in terms of asking on demand signs and symbols and and um numbers from the angels. If you're asking out of fear, like there's a difference, there's a different vibration when you're asking from a place of like prove yourself to me and I need something, y'all. I need something. Please help me.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my God, can we talk about that? That's such a really amazing point. That is because I think when I've looked back at my um my experience with angel numbers, when let me say it, maybe I'll phrase it this way and then we'll figure out how I fucked it up. Um, when I was looking for signs to quit my corporate job, the angel numbers that showed up when I looked them up, because I have I have two books behind me. I have um both of these I got at like five below, by the way. So you don't need to like go fancy. Yeah, Kyle Gray's Angel Numbers, which is a blue book, and then this beautiful, I don't know, Angel Numbers book by Mystic Michaela. Um, every time I would look up these numbers, and I use an online one too. I think it's Joanne Scribe. I can't remember what the specific scribe. She's amazing. Yeah. Um, every single number one of those was about financial abundance. Every single one, like over and over and over and over again. And it was just really interesting because at the time I would like every time I got it, I was like, oh, that's great. Oh, that's great, oh, that's great. Yep. And then I started realizing the pattern over time. And I was like, this is fucking confirmation bias. The like, like I felt like I was like, of course, of course, I would look for the stuff that was about financial stability. Because I'll tell you what, a couple months after I left my corporate job and did this mediumship stuff, I had no clients because right. Um, because I opened the floodgates of my calendar. Let's be real for a second, and everybody booked in that first month month, which was amazing. And then August, I had no idea about seasonality at this point. Nobody booked because everybody was on vacation. No one wants to, no offense. Not a lot of people want to do mediumship readings while everyone's on vacation, right? And I want to have a fun light August. And so for me, I was like, oh, so I completely see what you're saying because when I was looking in fear, I was looking for specific things and I had this bias of what I wanted to receive from the angels, not necessarily what I should have received, which is just like you're loved, you're supported. But I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I need you. I need you to tell me this part of my life is gonna be okay. So I don't, I don't know. I just blubbed on and on. What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_02:

I think first of all, you said you wanted August to be your vacation. We don't get to choose the how. And I think what you and I both have a defined ajna is what it's called in human design, which means we're always processing and trying to figure out the why behind everything. And so we're constantly going to be like, you know, what's next? How does this work out? How do I see this working? And when you don't get clients in August, it's like, well, on the surface, I don't have clients. Yeah. Um, but the angels are say, like, you look at though the vibration that you have, and it's fine. So you don't have clients in August. There's a way to look at that as a vacation rather than as a sign that you're failing. And you can look at it as a gift and stay in that high vibration of like, oh my God, thank you. Wow, something awesome must be coming. That is really scary to do. And I've been talking a lot, like I get real caught up on the how. And I've been talking to my team about this. Or angels are on your spirit team. They are spirit, by the way. Like, if if anybody's wondering if they're separate sort of entities, everybody, everything is spirit. This is just one particular visualization or or manifestation of spirit that we are talking about. Um, but when you're looking for the numbers in particular, I think there's a there's a difference between wanting to use them to control, to feel like in control, and using them. Well, why were they? They were saying they were saying it's mostly about controlling what are they saying? They cannot tell you what to do, they cannot guide you. Right. And when you try to use their angel, their numbers to guide you or to make your decisions for you, that is when it's you're not looking outside of yourself for guidance, you're looking outside of yourself for support.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, because you're taking away your own free will, which is why we come here.

SPEAKER_02:

Why we do that is because then we have someone to blame.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yes, which is way easier. Come on, angels, let us just blame you, Jesus.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, like like I saw these numbers and they didn't do this, and I saw I was gonna get a million dollars, and they like, and there they would absolutely show you signs of support to keep you going because guess what? When you're in when you know you knew you were supposed to leave that career. I know, I know there is no there's and being an entrepreneur, I was just talking to them about this too, because I was getting so caught up in my marketing process of like, how do I? I was getting trying to be so specific with my design, and they're like, Look, you are living in the physical world, take all the business advice and then do it your way. Yep. But there's no way that you're going to avoid the things, you're not going to be able to like step into a beautiful corporate-sized entrepreneurial career. It's hard. But they're there to tell you you'll be okay. And that's where faith meets trust and you take the next step forward. But if you're constantly, if you're trying and waiting for permission from your angel numbers, there, those are there for support for your actions. They are not meant to draw action from you.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. I love that so much. And I um and I the episode hasn't come out yet by the time we're recording this, but I definitely talk about this in my spirit guide. Right. And so I love the synchronicity here as well because that's how that happens too. So maybe, maybe what we do, I love this conversation because I think there's so many different ways I want to take this. Maybe let's give um, let's do like rapid fire. What do you want people to know about angel numbers? What is let's do it. You go, I'll go. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Um you say this. I like do you want me to go? Just go. They're real. They're real. Period. That's what I want them to know the most. They're real. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

And I want to reflect back on you what you said of um they are meant to show love and support, not to help you or not to make decisions for you, not to take away your empowerment. Yes. Yes, you can always say that. Yeah. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

That's well, yeah. I wanted to add that because I think they're both true. Yeah. Yeah. Number one is believe them. Number one is trust yourself because people are afraid to believe them. Um you can trust it. And then also, yes, they are there not to tell you what to do, they are there to support you.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. Um, in terms of maybe the the way that uh the one I want to drop in is be open to receiving whatever. Angel numbers come through. So it's not necessarily look for specific ones. Start noticing which ones are coming to you. Because if I looked at the angel numbers in the month of August, I probably would have seen numbers related to perseverance, keep going. This is just a minor, a minor dip, right? But instead I was so hyper-focused on where is the money because I'm apparently I'm Jerry Maguire over here. Um, that that that's what I was looking for. So by look, by looking for specific numbers or confirmation, I was shutting out my my ability to know what they were actually sending me. So my my advice is be open to receiving whatever numbers come through. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Notice. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think that that's that's wise. And I think that's with any sign, you know, if you get uh if you ask for a purple elephant and they you happen to see a purple rhino, like come on. Like, you know, it's the same, like my angel number for years and years and years, or my number that I loved was 49. And all of a sudden, when I started doing this work, 47 came through over and over and over. And I told you the night before I signed up for this Angel Reiki school, I was talking to my cousin who is um like a badass Rachel Maddow, like black, nail polished, um, carabiner lesbian in New York City. And I just had, I did not think she would be angel numbery. She also came from before that. She was like a badass finance person at Merrill Lynch in the city. So, like, I was like, there's no way. And she's like, Oh my God, yeah, I totally believe in angel numbers. And I had been seeing seeing 47 around, and I was like, you do? And she's like, Yeah, and she pulls up her shirt and she's got 47 tattooed on her ribs. I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it. I'm not gonna say, like, well, technically, before my angel number was 49. To your point, right? This is what they're giving me. And 47, 4 plus 7, talk about numerology, that's 11. You know, it just fits better. I can still draw a heart around it. That's why I liked 49 in the first place. Because you could draw a heart around it.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it. Let's talk about the meaning then. Let's talk about the meaning of numbers. And I love that story so much. So, how do you interpret the numbers that are coming through?

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I have my own meanings for my numbers, and I think they'll talk to you in hieroglyphics if you want. So, I think, you know, they had me make this worksheet, and I can give you this. It's just numbers in circles. But if you want to do this exercise where you look around, really what you would be doing is when you feel that is that an angel number? First of all, yes. Like if you're asking yourself that, yes. Um second, what were you thinking about the minute before? And try to, you know, I sort of associated six. That's a great one because people are like, six, six, six, what you know, like that's a devil. Like, I don't believe in negative energy. I don't negate anybody else's belief. So I'm not saying that they're that isn't real for other people, it's not for me.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Um and so when I was asking about six, um, I read things that said like caution or just belief. For me, six is a reminder to be in my body. Oh so it's an awareness, but it's a physical awareness.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. And so, and I think this is so freaking cool because your definition of six is different than my definition of six because I've studied numerology. Yeah. And so uh so my so when I am interpreting the numbers, I think you can intuitively tap in and be like, what does this mean? What is the frequency of you know, these one, two, three, whatever plus numbers. Um, and you can ask for a specific meaning that's customized. But for me, I always bring it back to numerology. So, like five is always it's the number of change. So I know when I'm seeing five, it's always change, not a bad change because I think people fear fear change, but um, the way I learn numerology, it's one of the many books that I have behind me. The shape of the number is the meaning of the number. So if you look at the number six, it looks like a woman with a pregnant belly. It's like home, it's fertility, it's um, it's supporting, it's relationships, right? Like, and I know two is really two is more duality for me. Um, but but yeah, it's it's about like love and creation and nurturing energy. And for you, you're taking that as like self self-care, bringing physical, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like it's it's a reminder to check in with where I am and isn't, yeah. Um physically. I mean, they all tie in. That's that's like the beauty and the challenge, I think, of having your relationship. Like everybody gets their own language with the universe, but it's not it's not verbal, it's not something that we all have the same code, the unity code. The only code we have is energy, and that's not going to be able to be articulated. So when you try to explain it, like you put you can feel the same energy in what we're talking about. Yes, but just for me, it's I I it's part of my lexicon in a different way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_02:

Me too. Oh, I love the shapes thing. I'm gonna I think also Nicole, like I am a human design medium, I pull angels through human design. So other people see as you know, other ways of describing like what they've assigned as, you know, for example, um, their emotions, you know, I see as a solar plexus, you know, but and so therefore the angels are are able to give through me very specific messages based on what the human design chart has as language. So for you, you have neurology. And so when your team works through you, they are able to give very specific messages through what you have learned because that's what they use. They use what we have picked up, and the people that are coming to you will need those messages, and the people that are coming to me will need the messages that I'm giving. That's the beauty of it. It's there's no one right way, it's just who is meant to hear what they need to hear from you, and they're hearing two different ways from us right now, and they can have their own effing way, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I think that's amazing. And I would say because I like to do order of operations here. So I think if you're seeing a number, right, and you have an intuitive hit or it's personal for you, take that is the meaning of it first, first and foremost, because you're absolutely right. The spirit angels will use your own lexicon, your own dictionary, your own experiences to define the meaning of these. Um, I tend to lean on numerology next, or if it comes to a lap stitch effort and you're like, what the frick does that angel number mean? Like that's where we have these reference books. And actually, in my mind, when I see an angel number, I'll ask them how do I interpret that? And they'll either like bring it to me, they'll be like, you need to interpret it. They'll actually show me, because these books look very different on the inside. So so if they show me this view of a square, I know they're they're having me look at the Mystic Michaela version. If they're showing it to me in a line, hmm, I know that they're showing me the Kyle Gray version of the book. And if they're showing it to me, like with because if if anyone's been on that website, it's pink and tan. If they show me the colors pink and tan, I know to go look on that website. So they actually also point me to which book to use because there is no one definition for any of these numbers.

SPEAKER_02:

Question for you. Yeah. Um, because I think I know the answer to this for you, but um just to I've I spent a lot of time in my mind wondering if I was doing the right thing. Okay. You say you see these these um resources, does it occur more like a thought I should check this resource? I can. Like I feel like I'm wondering, I feel like sometimes it feels more fluid than a point A, point B, point A. You know what I'm saying? Um, because I see I have the same thoughts. Um, or it's like, oh, I should check this website, or I should check this website. I'm wondering though, if does it really come like you're like, give me the instructions and then you get the symbol or you get the feeling, or is it more fluid?

SPEAKER_01:

When I see a number, typically at the same time, they'll show me where to look it up. Yeah, for me, it comes in more clairvoyantly. I can kind of see, and I can't see the definition of the number, it's just the way it's a little blurry, but I'll see the square, I'll see the line, I'll see the colors. And I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna go look up. And I remember doing this in the drive-thru of Panera one day. The license plate in front of me said 959. And I didn't have this book yet. My friend did. I literally have it printed up right here, and I I've had it up to uh printed every single day. And I was like, I know it needs to come from the book that my friend had, which was this one, right? The angel numbers book by by Mystic Michaela. And I was like, can you go look up this number for me and tell me what it is? And she did, and she sent me a picture, so I printed it. Um, so that's how it comes in for me. For you, it might be a knowing, it might be a a thought, right? And so, like, so I'm gonna challenge people as you're seeing these numbers, if you're getting this hit of what does it mean while you're receiving it, or where do I find out what it means? Like, go and follow that right away. Because again, to your point, Carly, your brain, your logic will always take over shortly after you get that hit. So follow that hit.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I yeah, I think, and as people are thinking about this at home, you know, there isn't like a let me pull up my catalog and and collect or feel like I'm picking the wrong resource. We were saying this earlier, but Joe Fail's saying it's another way too. Um, and she I'm looking at uh something that says beauty and love right now, um which is her. Um, but it's another way that this would um come through. You want to look at that resource. It's not like a oh shit, I have to wait. It's more like no right now. It's like uh, I know the thing that I want to look at. I know the thing that I want to look at. It's same with search results. Oh yeah, like if I if I don't have anything with me and I want to know right away, like what's the meaning of um a client of mine and e grit, you know, I I and I want to know right now, I'll Google it and then just wait until it, yeah, that's the one. And I just second guess it.

SPEAKER_01:

And there's a knowing that comes with that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So if you if you're wondering if you're right, you're right. Like just trust yourself, you know, in the immediate. I completely agree. I completely channeling when you're channeling, your intuition works in a different way. But when you're channeling like numbers, what they mean, first thing that you think of.

SPEAKER_01:

And I think it's so similar, that same knowing, that same instinct of like, oh, it's right there. That's that's the feeling I get when I know an angel number is for me. Like it'll just for me personally, what it looks like is it's either a number that I know, so like 1008, right? It or that number will stop me in my tracks and for some reason I'll look at it just a little bit longer than everything else. And and I don't know why I'm looking at it a little bit longer or I feel drawn to this number, but I know it is because I know a lot of the the angel numbers are easy to pick out because they're 333, 555, right? They're repeating numbers, but sometimes it's like 187, right? Like like it might be like 237, right? So, like, and sometimes you just like you get stuck on a number and you're like, oh, that's really weird, or maybe it's a total. I can't remember. There was a funny story about that. I'll if it pops up, it'll I'll I'll say it. But but there'll be a number that will just be there for maybe an important moment, and then I go look it up, for example.

SPEAKER_02:

And you'll remember, so Archangel Rigel wants to come in and say too, it's Archangel of Triggers for me, um, and remind people that like I picture sometimes like the Illuminati and Da Vinci Code and angels and demons of like they they want to remind you that you're not gonna miss it. And if it comes, it'll come up again and again and again. And I feel like sometimes we feel like especially when we see so many angel numbers. I know I did, it's like, wait, wait, I've got to look this up and I've got to look this up. And what is this number plus this number plus this number? And what does that mean? And that is a human fear that we have, they're saying it's a human fear that we have developed through understanding uh through through feeling as if our own instinct should be questioned. If our own our own instinct should be always questioned. And they're showing me, like basically in school, um, when you're young and you have these ideas and you have these knowings, and people will chastise you for them, or their teacher will be like, no, no, no, you know, because they're thinking with their logical mind. And that's the sort of energy of Archangel Rigal. You've learned to question yourself, and so it is very triggering when you see all these numbers and you want them to be real. That's why it's you question them, by the way, because if if it were not real, it would be soul crushing. But it is, you know, but we have to feel as if we're in this human experience. That's the whole point. I heard something beautiful on um another podcast, Day Luna podcast about human design, that was talking about like this iteration of life is what if we didn't know that we were safe? What if we didn't know that we were unconditionally loved? What would life be like? Totally different. That's like that's our our human like experience. So when we search for what if we knew, it's just that's not that's not the point. So point being, Archangel Raygal saying it's human to question question yourself, but that is something conditioned that you you put in yourself. So just allow yourself to allow your inner child, honestly, to feel that number and feel that you're right. It's okay to question yourself, but they will keep showing up, you're not gonna miss it. You don't need a lexicon. You don't, they're not going to give you like a secret code, and until you figure that out, they're not gonna give you anything more.

SPEAKER_01:

I I love that so much. And recently in some sort of a class, I was I was co-hosting. Someone kept asking, what if I'm getting it wrong? Like, what if, what if, what if it's not for me? What if it's the so it was the I loved this conversation because this is how I know I'm channeling, even when I'm fully conscious, because the words that come through my mouth are nothing I would ever say ever to anybody. And it was, so what? So what? So what if it's not for you? Did it give you the loving energy feeling for that half a second before you rationalize your way out of it? Then it served its purpose and and it was for you. And so there's no risk with any of these things. And by the way, the one thing, the one thing Spirit downloaded in my brain before we got started, um, Carly, was angel numbers are meant to reflect back the positive vibration that you are currently at andor better. They will never ever give you anything negative or below what or give you signs or symbols that things bad things are happening. That is not a thing. They don't do that, they are only to reflect back your positives and your potential.

SPEAKER_02:

10,000 percent. That's from like the 666 perspective. It's like, oh my god, what's happened? Like, no, yeah, they would never thought makes you feel you're not enough. If you fear feel fear from angel numbers, that is that is your conditioned mind.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and it was really funny because I found an angel number the other day and I looked it up, and it was that I was going to be losing something of super fucking triggering for me, losing something financially. And I was like, this doesn't feel right, this is not right. And and I think it was on one of the one of the ones I mentioned so far, and I was like, it really sat with me, and I was like, this isn't, this is not right. Like, and because immediately it it triggered fear, it triggered lower vibration for me. And that's not the purpose or intent of angel numbers. So even no, if you're looking these up on some of the resources I've told you and it doesn't feel good for you, like just check, just check whether intuitively it is for you or not, or whether somebody else's fears came into the definitions of these angel numbers because they had them when they created them.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And I mean, I mean, there's also there's so many. I mean, Dorian Virtue was a huge name in Angels and Angel Number and was huge, and then all of a sudden just stopped and refuted all of it. And like, there's everybody is human. We are all human. And by the way, you have free will, you can choose what you believe. What you and I are saying is delightful for us. It's what I believe, it's my truth, and I want to share it because if it's your truth too, what a fucking pleasure it is. What a delight it is to live knowing that you are unconditionally love and support. I'm not refuting anybody else, you know. That's it, that's a life, that's a choice, you know. But to your point where we are, spirit is unconditional love. And especially the angels who are there to support us, trillions and billions of angels, there to support us and to make not to guide, but to support our own self-guidance, I guess, you know, no matter what we choose. And Archangel Metatron always says you're never more than one step off your highest path, right? So they are not there to pull you back to change who you are, they are there to love and support you. So, to your point, if you see something that a human wrote, right, and that Archangel Ragel is saying might be triggering to you, Archangel Shamuel is also saying, you know, family and relationships is also like this also might have to do with relationships and family and what's going on in your life right now. Like your free will is to ask again. They will come back, by the way. Like I saw a card, I was flipping cards the other day. I use my angel cards um for validation. I don't use them, um, I don't like to do readings, but I do really love them. And I love um especially the past, present, future way that I read it to sort of help me understand why I am where I am and to give me support for the future and to help tell me how well I've done in the past because I just like that affirmation. Um, but I got something and I was unsure about it, and I was just like, I'm reshuffling, I'm reshuffling, doing it again, show it to me again, show it to me in a different way, which we say all the time when we're doing readings. Yes, like that's coming through, and I'm just getting in my head about it. Show me a different way. Um so to your point, if you read something, show me a different way. Yep, do it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, absolutely. Oh my gosh, this has been incredible. Can it can everyone just see why I just love chatting with Carly? She's just so freaking connected. So back at you. I think you're the best mediumship teacher there is out there. Period. Thanks, Carly. I'm gonna work on receiving, so thank you. I receive that. I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_02:

So if you're looking, if you're listening to this and you're wondering wondering about mediumship, I'm telling you, this is your girl. This is your girl.

SPEAKER_01:

This is not an ad, everybody.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I mean, I will do an ad though.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, do you need ads on your podcast?

SPEAKER_02:

I'll just record record it.

SPEAKER_01:

Give me a script because it's it's really dang. Apparently, you're supposed to. Um so Carly, I know we have we're we are flying through this. I could talk to you for hours. Wait, what um what do you offer for readings and where can people find you?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, oh, okay. So I'm on um my website primarily. I also use Instagram. I'm trying to figure out my socials right now. Um, I started a sub stack, but honestly, I'm on my website. Um, and I offer angelic human design readings. So as I mentioned, I was an angel medium um and I started in angel Reiki school, developed into a healer um through energy Reiki healing and also um angel communication, mediumship, helping people to heal whatever they needed to, was led to human design. And now I work with Spirit and the Angels to help you understand, work with your spirit team, connect you with your spirit team to see who's on your team and who's helping you and supporting you in this moment, but then also take you through human design, your human design, which has thousands of components. They point out exactly the parts that you need to know in this moment that will help you most, um, which I love because it's really tangible. So, human design, if you don't know, is this incredibly complex, layered system of uh systems that exist. So basically, it's a way of viewing it's Western astrology, um, uh the Kabbalah, uh the Iching, um, and um numerous uh Western astrology, um, astronomy, quantum physics, all layered into this crazy, you can attest to crazy wild accurate chart of just visualization of your energy, right? And there are so many components to look at, and it's so helpful in so many ways. I work with women who have felt like a sort of spiritual tug and don't know what it is. And also I tend to work with women who this is not their profession, might be afraid it would be their profession. Like, so what do I need to do? Like, oh my God, what if I look at this thing? I've always known that I'm really into mediumship. I've always known I'm really into angel numbers, I've always known this stuff. And I really like these women really believe it and they know that there's something a little bit more. Um, but if you pull that thread, what's gonna happen? And actually, so okay, so I learn I'm a medium, then what? That's the people that I work with because knowing about who you are changes your entire life. When we just talked at the beginning of this about feeling the love of the angels, the human design tells you why. And at the beginning, the extra. I say the world needs your extra. What I mean is the world needs your gifts. I spent my entire growing up feeling like I was Kimmy Gibbler. Like, for and for younger listeners who don't know, Kimmy Gibbler is that like annoying neighbor who like smell her feet smell and she's like gross, and but like everybody loves her, but everybody tells her they don't love her. Like it's like this really toxic thing, actually, thinking back on it. But I felt so extra, and I felt so like I was too much, but never enough for anything. And I followed this entire career into I was a marketing director. I had gone to I went I went to Northwestern for grad school, and you only pay that much so that you can say you did that. So, hey, I went to Northwestern for grad school with all of these high achieving people, and I was on that path. And it's just like it's just not, I knew there was something different. Yeah. And so this is where I've been led because I know that the people in those rooms, and you know this, the CMOs, the people who are, you know, in affluent communities who are really in a have a lot of power as it relates to just even influence in their community. Like you have just knowing who you are and trusting that that thing that you're trying to sort of figure out why it makes you different or why you can't be a certain way, that is where you're meant to shine. And I think you know that on a soul level. I really do. But what human design does and what the angels will do because they're so incredible, and your whole team will do, is bring you through and be like, oh no, this is exactly why. This scientific data point, yes, that shows you why you are the way that you are, and shows you it's sort of Archangel to point Archangel Jofiel, it flips it into how beautiful you are. I love it. And I can't tell you, I can't put it into words really, but when I found out my design and I really started to just little by little implement it, and I'm I'm a healer and I'm a medium, and that's what I do for my career. So it doesn't mean that you have to do this, but if you just start, you know, for instance, as a generator type, and you can go on my website and figure out which type you are. Um, if you find out that you're meant to respond and not initiate, or you find out that when you as a manifesting generator, um, you are meant to do all the different things. You are not meant to stay in one path and pursue it. Or as a projector, you and I need to wait for the invitation before we share our thoughts. It takes away that feeling of why doesn't anybody understand what the F I'm saying? It makes so much sense to me. I must just have to second guess myself all the time.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it.

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I love it.

SPEAKER_02:

Anyway, so find me on our website. Find me on my website. Um, and also I just wrote a book. Um, so if you'd like to learn more about human design, you have it right here.

SPEAKER_01:

I have it right here. So so it um this is definitely gonna be for another podcast episode. But yeah, she also wrote a color, a human design coloring book. So if you're not sure what your type is or you want to learn more, this is a great fun introductory piece for you. And I'll I'll include that link in the show notes too. I'm just so proud of you for this. It's amazing. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I also just launched, by the way. If you go and you join my email list, I'm doing a 10-minute tour to chart free. So if you want to get a high level of your human design chart, and um, you can even mention angel numbers, we can talk about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Awesome. Oh, this was amazing. Thank you so much for being here, Carly. On I love you. This is so beautiful. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02:

Love everybody.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, this won't be the last time you hear from her, but Carly, thank you so much for being here and your angels and bestowing this incredible wisdom on us all. I appreciate and love you so much.

SPEAKER_02:

Likewise, I do all of your exercises, and I think this is just the coolest. I really feel like you're in your purpose. So if you're listening to this, keep listening because shit's about to get so cool. But profound things that just help us know that we're all in the same place and we're all, no matter what you believe, we're all doing the same thing and we're all connected. I love it.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you so much, Carly. Yeah, stay tuned for more angel number conversations later in the week from me. But um appreciate you all and thank you for being here. Take care. Bye.

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